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Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06
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Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06


  • Subject: Re: Looks like ThinkSecret got some of the scoop on WO from WWDC'06
  • From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 11:19:32 -0700


On Aug 26, 2006, at 9:49 AM, David LeBer wrote:

Lets look at this from a completely different (hypothetical) angle:

The WO Frameworks have a very large number of Apple developers pounding on them daily. These developers are working on projects that range from internal ones we never see to the external high profile ones like iTMS and .Mac. Some of the projects arguably are the highest trafficked WebObjects applications on the planet. I'm sure these developers are finding bugs - and fixing them because they need their stuff to work and they have access to the code. Many (though not all) are *not* using Xcode+WOBuilder+EOModeler to build their apps.

There is at least one person still stubbornly clinging to Xcode (hi Alan!).



The WO Tools have a very small number of Apple developers assigned to them (Maybe 4, maybe less). The task of completely recreating the WO tools stack (I used "stack", do I get a prize?)

Yes! Please apply on-line to claim your prize!


sans a dependency to the Cocoa-Java bridge is virtually impossible given the resources available.

So from a completely pragmatic standpoint, if you were in charge of allocating resources for the tools within Apple, and you saw that the WOCommunity(tm) was doing an arguably better job at the task you were facing, would that not give you some ideas? Might you not say: "If we drop the tools development, we can free up resources to focus on improving the Frameworks and integrate the fixes and enhancements our internal groups are finding into the public releases".

That is what I think happened.

I also think that this is what happened.


For me, the bottom line is this: Regardless of what is going on in house at Apple, the boost this has given the WOCommunity is priceless.

Agreed. We have a clear direction now, no more sitting on the fence hoping that Apple makes new tools. And with the focus on the core frameworks instead of tools, we can reasonably expect some bug fixes and enhancements driven from the projects at Apple.



Disclaimer: This is all conjecture, I have no inside information, feel free to dismiss it if you wish.

What David said. :-)


Chuck

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Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects





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