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Re: problems installing xquartz
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Re: problems installing xquartz

  • Subject: Re: problems installing xquartz
  • From: Brandon Allbery <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 11:00:22 -0500
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Jim Graham <email@hidden> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:19:13AM +0100, Lars-Johan Liman wrote:
> email@hidden:
> > My point is that, as user interfaces go, X11 is pretty sucky.  (There are
> > very good reasons why there's a big push for Wayland.)  Especially on OS X,
> > I'm usually much happier using the native GUI; and on Linux the GUI
> > experience just feels cobbled together --- which it is, because X11
> > is.
>
> I would argue that X11 is not a user interface - it's a network
> transparent framwork for displaying graphics on screens which may not be
> directly connected to the piece of equipment you're sitting at.

Excellent point, as the UI for X11 depends entirely on the window

Entirely correct --- but this, from a user experience standpoint, is its biggest failing.  I submit for your consideration copy/paste (one of the most frequent user issues in the xmonad community):  not only are there multiple incompatible copy/paste systems, but you cannot make xterm behave in the same way that other programs do without source hacks.  And, of course, it's quite impossible to make X11 programs on OS X behave like native programs; there are always small but annoying oddities at best, and often complete dissonance.

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