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Re: Thanks and Comments


  • Subject: Re: Thanks and Comments
  • From: "Jerry W. Walker" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:42:38 -0500

Hi, Chuck,

Heh, hardly off topic with that subject line.

On Mar 23, 2006, at 1:14 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

I'm truly sorry, David, for categorizing you in that scurrilous group of WinTel... (Oops, don't want to be too politically incorrect, now that Intel is the RIGHT computer and the PowerPC has always been the WRONG computer.)

I'm still waiting for Apple Windows 2010. :-P

Despite my comments above, the biggest downside to Apple's going with Intel, in my estimation, is that the basic Intel 8086 architecture has won. Though not many of us deal directly with the processor architecture anymore, I mourn the loss of better architectures for personal computers (much the way I mourn the loss of better keyboard layouts than QWERTY, lost because a layout that was designed to SLOW OUR TYPING DOWN, won).


...Windows users to which Chuck belongs. You deserved better.  :-(

You're thinking of the old Chuck. I've been to rehab and found religion.

WOW! I'm both pleased and chagrined!

Pleased because I've always worried that the inconsistencies of Windows architecture might rub off on your code and I might inherit maintenance duties one day on some of that sullied code you wrote. With you on Macs, I no longer worry. What a GREAT day! hallelujah!

I'm chagrined because this is the second time in one day that I've been forced to eat crow. First David, now you! At least crow tastes better while it's fresh.

Worse yet, now that you've caught me out, I find myself sitting in my office not 20 feet away from an old 386 box that still runs DOS. I dragged it up from the basement to try to read some old 5 1/4" unix diskettes with an ancient version of the MKS Toolkit. That didn't work, but I keep hoping I'll find the time to install Linux on it so I can read those old diskettes before it and they crumble. The other 9 computers in my home/office are all Macs.

Yeah, yeah. Only use it on weekends blah blah blah. The next think you know...

"My name is Jerry and I am a Windoze-aholic"

Nah, I'd be too ashamed to admit to such a disease, even in one of those groups. You should have seen my hands tremble on the keyboard even admitting that the machine was that close to me. At least I got it for free with a batch of 130 old NeXT machines I bought. My boys played Unlimited Adventures and Rogue on it for a few years, so it was worth the space and power it consumed.


Now I see from another thread that you've called another of my pronouncements into question:

If you follow Chuck's advice on this one, he will have you building your WOComponents and EOModels by hand in BBEdit, or some such so you can use Eclipse. Watch'im.
...
Um, I use Eclipse and WOBuilder and EOModeler. On OS X. And WOLips has a pretty nice (nod to Mike Schrag) text editor for the .wod/.html/.java that handles code completion, validation, color code, and some other nifty features.

I have to admit that my last use of Eclipse was over a year ago on a G3 Pismo laptop. I could watch the screens draw and it hadn't yet achieved integration with WOBuilder or EOModeler (at least in the version I was using).


We had to use Eclipse for the project and to access both EOModeler and WOBuilder, we had to keep the project compatible with Xcode (or was it Project Builder?). It was a painful experience that has kept me from even trying Eclipse again. Along with the crow I've been eating today, I might have to take another look at Eclipse. The irony is, that I might first try it again on an Intel laptop (a MacBook if things go well).

Or, heck, maybe I'll try it on my old DOS 386 in the corner over there. Let's see, if I install Linux, then the Java 1.4 jdk, then Eclipse and WOLips, then the old WO 5.2.? or something for WOBuilder and EOModeler, then... Oh, never mind.

Regards,
Jerry

--
__ Jerry W. Walker,
WebObjects Developer/Instructor for High Performance Industrial Strength Internet Enabled Systems


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