Re: Thanks and Comments
Re: Thanks and Comments
- Subject: Re: Thanks and Comments
- From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:28:11 -0800
On Mar 23, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Jerry W. Walker wrote:
Hi, Chuck,
Heh, hardly off topic with that subject line.
On Mar 23, 2006, at 1:14 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
I'm truly sorry, David, for categorizing you in that scurrilous
group of WinTel... (Oops, don't want to be too politically
incorrect, now that Intel is the RIGHT computer and the PowerPC
has always been the WRONG computer.)
I'm still waiting for Apple Windows 2010. :-P
Despite my comments above, the biggest downside to Apple's going
with Intel, in my estimation, is that the basic Intel 8086
architecture has won. Though not many of us deal directly with the
processor architecture anymore, I mourn the loss of better
architectures for personal computers (much the way I mourn the loss
of better keyboard layouts than QWERTY, lost because a layout that
was designed to SLOW OUR TYPING DOWN, won).
Aww Jeez. Here comes the BetaMax rant. Again...
:-P
You do know that you can buy keyboard with the Dvorak or other
layouts? Google knows. Of course, they probably only work on an
machine running MS Windows. <GDAR>
...Windows users to which Chuck belongs. You deserved better. :-(
You're thinking of the old Chuck. I've been to rehab and found
religion.
WOW! I'm both pleased and chagrined!
Pleased because I've always worried that the inconsistencies of
Windows architecture might rub off on your code and I might inherit
maintenance duties one day on some of that sullied code you wrote.
With you on Macs, I no longer worry. What a GREAT day! hallelujah!
Don't worry, I am saving all the old, sullied code just for you!
I'm chagrined because this is the second time in one day that I've
been forced to eat crow. First David, now you! At least crow tastes
better while it's fresh.
LOL
Worse yet, now that you've caught me out, I find myself sitting
in my office not 20 feet away from an old 386 box that still runs
DOS. I dragged it up from the basement to try to read some old 5
1/4" unix diskettes with an ancient version of the MKS Toolkit.
That didn't work, but I keep hoping I'll find the time to install
Linux on it so I can read those old diskettes before it and they
crumble. The other 9 computers in my home/office are all Macs.
Yeah, yeah. Only use it on weekends blah blah blah. The next
think you know...
"My name is Jerry and I am a Windoze-aholic"
Nah, I'd be too ashamed to admit to such a disease, even in one of
those groups. You should have seen my hands tremble on the keyboard
even admitting that the machine was that close to me. At least I
got it for free with a batch of 130 old NeXT machines I bought. My
boys played Unlimited Adventures and Rogue on it for a few years,
so it was worth the space and power it consumed.
Now I see from another thread that you've called another of my
pronouncements into question:
If you follow Chuck's advice on this one, he will have you
building your WOComponents and EOModels by hand in BBEdit, or
some such so you can use Eclipse. Watch'im.
...
Um, I use Eclipse and WOBuilder and EOModeler. On OS X. And
WOLips has a pretty nice (nod to Mike Schrag) text editor for
the .wod/.html/.java that handles code completion, validation,
color code, and some other nifty features.
I have to admit that my last use of Eclipse was over a year ago on
a G3 Pismo laptop. I could watch the screens draw and it hadn't yet
achieved integration with WOBuilder or EOModeler (at least in the
version I was using).
Yes, it was weak back then.
We had to use Eclipse for the project and to access both EOModeler
and WOBuilder, we had to keep the project compatible with Xcode (or
was it Project Builder?). It was a painful experience that has kept
me from even trying Eclipse again. Along with the crow I've been
eating today, I might have to take another look at Eclipse. The
irony is, that I might first try it again on an Intel laptop (a
MacBook if things go well).
Or, heck, maybe I'll try it on my old DOS 386 in the corner over
there. Let's see, if I install Linux, then the Java 1.4 jdk, then
Eclipse and WOLips, then the old WO 5.2.? or something for
WOBuilder and EOModeler, then... Oh, never mind.
If you do, be sure to capture it on your BetaMax video camera.
Yours in jest,
Chuck
--
Coming in 2006 - an introduction to web applications using WebObjects
and Xcode http://www.global-village.net/wointro
Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their
overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific
problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects
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