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Re: 10.5.5 broke X11
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Re: 10.5.5 broke X11


  • Subject: Re: 10.5.5 broke X11
  • From: Jordan K.Hubbard <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:07:25 -0700

Hmmm.  Well, here is a stock 10.5.5 system:

hoser:~ jkh$ launchctl list | grep org.x.startx
- 0 org.x.startx
hoser:~ jkh$ ls -l {,/System,~}/Library/Launch*/org.x*
ls: /Library/Launch*/org.x*: No such file or directory
ls: /Users/jkh/Library/Launch*/org.x*: No such file or directory
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 597 Aug 21 21:43 /System/Library/ LaunchAgents/org.x.startx.plist
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 585 Aug 21 21:43 /System/Library/ LaunchDaemons/org.x.privileged_startx.plist


As you can see, the file size on /S/L/LD/org.x.privileged_startx.plist is different, as is the status on the loaded launchd plist. Without knowing the differences, it's hard to speculate as to whether this is genuinely the cause of your woes, but it might be worthwhile also comparing these md5 checksums against yours:

hoser:~ jkh$ md5 /System/Library/Launch*/org.x*
MD5 (/System/Library/LaunchAgents/org.x.startx.plist) = d6a61909f759cd7c54fbd35604268e4d
MD5 (/System/Library/LaunchDaemons/org.x.privileged_startx.plist) = 38099100a39f809ad8f861210cdaa8ff


Again, this is a system that was *freshly installed* from 10.5.5. I did it just now, on a spare G5 in the corner, for the express purpose of seeing whether or not this "buggy OS" is actually buggy or if something was done to your system which this update merely exposed by coincidence (with enough moving parts, anything is possible in a complex software stack).

- Jordan


On Sep 17, 2008, at 12:37 PM, Robert Black wrote:

What happened? A software update! When I was on 10.5.4, everything I need was working fine. Updated iTunes, a Security update Monday, still no serious problems. Tuesday, I upgraded to 10.5.5, and X11 broke, seemingly never to be repaired.

I have since repaired permissions, upgraded to Xquartz-2.3.1, & done everything suggested, to no avail. I will (out of necessity) revert back to 10.4.11 if this can't be fixed. I liked some Leopard features, such as Spaces and launchd, but I can live without them if necessary.

Robert A. Black

Research Meteorologist                  4301 Rickenbacker Cswy.
NOAA/AOML/HRD                            Miami, FL 33149-1026

Ph:   (305) 361-4314
FAX: (305) 361-4528 (NEW)

E-Mail: email@hidden
(Any opinions expressed are mine alone, not NOAA policy)




On Sep 17, 2008, at 3:21 PM, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

I think the bigger question is:  What happened to your system?

It concerns me that if one system file has been somehow deleted, others may have been as well. I'm not sure how much I would trust your particular installation of Leopard. If you have the option of simply backing up your user files and doing a clean install of your system, it might pay dividends in returning you to more baseline behavior.

- Jordan

On Sep 17, 2008, at 10:24 AM, Robert Black wrote:

Here it is. Looks like some system file isn't present. If not, where can I find one?

apollo18:~ rblack$ launchctl list | grep org.x.startx
327     -       org.x.startx
apollo18:~ rblack$

launchctl list | grep org.x
ls -l {,/System,~}/Library/Launch*/org.x*

Here is the output of that one.
apollo18:~ rblack$ ls -l {,/System,~}/Library/Launch*/org.x*
ls: /Library/Launch*/org.x*: No such file or directory
ls: /Users/rblack/Library/Launch*/org.x*: No such file or directory
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 597 Sep 4 18:52 /System/Library/ LaunchAgents/org.x.startx.plist
-rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 573 Sep 16 14:24 /System/Library/ LaunchDaemons/org.x.privileged_startx.plist
apollo18:~ rblack$


Robert A. Black

Research Meteorologist                  4301 Rickenbacker Cswy.
NOAA/AOML/HRD                            Miami, FL 33149-1026

Ph:   (305) 361-4314
FAX: (305) 361-4528 (NEW)

E-Mail: email@hidden
(Any opinions expressed are mine alone, not NOAA policy)




On Sep 17, 2008, at 12:37 PM, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:

launchctl list | grep org.x.startx

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References: 
 >10.5.5 broke X11 (From: Robert Black <email@hidden>)
 >Re: 10.5.5 broke X11 (From: Merle Reinhart <email@hidden>)
 >Re: 10.5.5 broke X11 (From: Robert Black <email@hidden>)
 >Re: 10.5.5 broke X11 (From: Jeremy Huddleston <email@hidden>)
 >Re: 10.5.5 broke X11 (From: Jeremy Huddleston <email@hidden>)
 >Re: 10.5.5 broke X11 (From: Robert Black <email@hidden>)
 >Re: 10.5.5 broke X11 (From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: 10.5.5 broke X11 (From: Robert Black <email@hidden>)

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